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i find it curious that the Americans i have met are mostly prepared to take a bet, but then get all defensive and evasive when they lose. One of The Street Theatre Players Ensemble decided to tell me that Life on Mars was firstly an American show and that the British had copied it and had a female lead.

What ten minutes on the internet told us, was that Life on Mars was originally a british show, and that the spin-off / sequel to the two season long british show, was called something else and had a female lead.

"Are you really going to take ten dollars from me?"
"Sure. Don't you pay bets here?"
"Well, um. i mean you see what i meant, it had a female lead."
"But it was the sequel. And it was the sequel to the british show, not the american one. And the British show still came first."
"Um."
"You know what, don't worry about it. It's only ten dollars."
"
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i find it curious that the Americans i have met are mostly prepared to take a bet, but then get all defensive and evasive when they lose. One of The Street Theatre Players Ensemble decided to tell me that Life on Mars was firstly an American show and that the British had copied it and had a female lead.

What ten minutes on the internet told us, was that Life on Mars was originally a british show, and that the spin-off / sequel to the two season long british show, was called something else and had a female lead.

"Are you really going to take ten dollars from me?"
"Sure. Don't you pay bets here?"
"Well, um. <dithering> i mean you see what i meant, it had a female lead."
"But it was the sequel. And it was the sequel to the british show, not the american one. And the British show still came first."
"Um."
"You know what, don't worry about it. It's only ten dollars."
"<more dithering about the way it was promoted on TV as being the sequel to the "American smash hit series", which doesn't change the fact that it was a British series first. And i am surprised that he doesn't know that the TV lies>."

So ten dollars and a shot later, he walked out, not super happy but at least he knows that he stood up to a bet he made."

Never gamble with me, because i usually don't care if i lose, or i am just not going to lose. Betting on sure things is one of my favourite past times, especially when people want to argue with me. I'm just mean like that.

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journalsoup
Sep. 30th, 2009 06:10 am (UTC)
It's part of the American culture. Risky gambles are always going to turn out positively for us. Hell, the nation's literally founded on a longshot. So when that pony doesn't come in, it leaves many of us shaken to our core.
smokedamage
Sep. 30th, 2009 06:26 am (UTC)
I find that really odd. So no expectation of failure?

One in a million chances crop up nine times out of ten, that kind of thing?

But people *do* pay their bets, right? Even if no-one is coming after them with a baseball bat?
journalsoup
Sep. 30th, 2009 08:08 am (UTC)
Oh, the expectation of failure exists, otherwise they would't be able to see themselves as daring risk-takers. But it only exists for other people, certainly not for the protagonist in the story! Failure is like car accidents, you see them all the time, but they don't happen to you!
As for paying off bets, I've always found "Okay, you can just owe it to me." works wonders on the reticent. As a mental trick, it's no longer a question of IF they're going to pay, just when. People seem to take debts more seriously than wagers. Or there's always "double or nothing."
smokedamage
Sep. 30th, 2009 08:40 am (UTC)
Nice analogy. And that is making a lot of sense to a lot of things right now.

I have had that many people round here owe me money and never repay it because they can't, or make up some line of bullshit or whatever that i am out about ten grand. I am over lending people money because no-one is going to do that for me, but i still do, because they need it and i have it, and i keep coming back to the answer despite looking at a board everyday that lists names and long numbers and it doesn't stop me. Clearly, i am this stupid with money.

I dunno, no one has failed on a bet yet. They've been a little taken aback that i would claim such a thing, but they've paid.
disgruntledgrrl
Sep. 30th, 2009 12:43 pm (UTC)
I think it's the height of hubris enforced by schooling
Kids are allowed to say "I bet you" and there is rarely ever an intent to collect. This leads to multiple ass beatings later on in life.
Often those who actually do call their fellow classmates out to pay up are tagged as spoilsports.

In Texas, because of so many damn Yankees taking things for granted, we have a way with these things.
"I bet you $10 (blah blah blah)"

You then take out $10 and slap it down and point to it. They are suppose to lay their $10 down and not get bitchy when you take it. It indicates a real bet and not the schoolyard shit the eventually becomes "I'd bet a million dollars that Archie is going to ask Veronica to marry him."
smokedamage
Oct. 1st, 2009 07:22 am (UTC)
Re: I think it's the height of hubris enforced by schooling
Actually i did exactly that.

I slapped my ten bucks on the bar, and asked him where his was before i looked anything up.
disgruntledgrrl
Oct. 2nd, 2009 10:30 pm (UTC)
Re: I think it's the height of hubris enforced by schooling
Then he's a twat. I've not known anyone to take a bet and then whine. Seems the presence of money makes my friends a bit more serious and adult.

Plenty of whining around the gaming table, though. Guess + 6 dice equal -15 intelligence
tigersharkiv
Oct. 1st, 2009 12:23 am (UTC)
Would help if people actually thought about the consequences of what they say eh? Shows you how much their words are worth.
smokedamage
Oct. 1st, 2009 07:25 am (UTC)
THAT sir, is a conversation i am NOT going to get into roung these here parts
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